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Casualties of a Progress that Isn't
Many readers would, by now, have heard of the case of Otto Fong, the teacher from Raffles Institution who came out as a homosexual in a now-deleted blog entry. Mr. Wang even calls him a hero.

In my previous entry, I highlighted how MOE's statement regarding its attitude towards homosexual teachers is uncannily similar to Minister of State for Education Lui Tuck Yew's "reply" to demand for an explanation regarding the rejection of Alfian Sa'at's application for a relief teaching position.

Some people are speculating that Fong would eventually be sacked. But it perhaps does not matter whether Fong is sacked or not. If he is sacked, it will become a signal to gays (particularly gay teachers) that they are not accepted and it will a signal to anti-gay people that their views are still respected. There will simply be societal regression. On the other hand, if Fong is not sacked, this case will probably be used as a great example that gays are actually "tolerated" or even accepted in this society. "Look, you are not at risk just because you are gay." Which simply is not true.

And MM Lee's words will reverberate chillingly. ""[W]e take an ambiguous position. We say, O.K., leave them alone, but let's leave the law as it is for the time being and let's have no gay parades." (International Herald Tribune)

This ambiguity is arguably far more violent than an outrightly discriminatory policy. It ensures that the state can always pay lip service to some form of acceptance (just as it pays lip service to openness and other things people are demanding for) without having to commit to being non-discriminatory. We don't hang gays. Well, we can't really accept them. But gays are not persecuted. No, we have to respect the conservatives.

If you are MM Lee, you have the discursive capital to be open. Or to sound as though you are open. You can say that you wouldn't have banned Martyn See's Singapore Rebel if you were asked to choose, but then you are no longer in charge.

You can say that you actually believe that homosexuality is genetic, not acquired.

You can say that it is only a matter of time before the laws have to change.

How progressive.

Indeed, many have quoted MM Lee, including Alex Au (see his article, ""It's a matter of time," says Lee Kuan Yew") and Otto Fong himself: "In April this year, Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew - one of [Raffles Institution's] greatest alumni - called homosexuality a "genetic variation," questioning the validity of criminalising gay sex."

Yes, so what?

Not everyone can afford to be progressive.

Perhaps Otto Fong is indeed a hero. But many real-life heroes are also casualties. (Only Superheroes aren't.) He need not be sacked - not immediately anyway. Perhaps some time later he would be sacked due to unsatisfactory performance. Perhaps he would never even be sacked, but would this automatically mean that gay teachers would never be sacked and gays applying to teach will never be rejected because of their sexuality?

Respond to any pleasing promise to be more open, to let a hundred flowers bloom (like they did during the Cultural Revolution?), to be cosmopolitan. Be prepared to be a casualty.

There's no free lunch in this country. The Progress Meal can be very costly unless perhaps you hold a VIP card.

Meanwhile MM Lee can continue to exercise his discursive capital. I bet he can even claim to be homosexual and get still not be forced to retire or retract his claim. (I am by no means suggesting that he is homosexual. I am just saying that I think that he will not face significant backlash even if he claims to be one.) He can continue saying that Singapore has to move with the times. That he would not ban Martyn See's films. That . . .

Of course. But doesn't he also believe in creating a system that would persist even if he dies, a system that would persist even if the PAP has disappeared (my own paraphrase, of course)?

Perhaps he has succeeded.

As for others like Otto Fong, be prepared to delete your words. You have no discursive capital.

Wait for concerned parents to voice their objections and send their sons for HIV tests and psychiatric counseling.

Wait for politicians to claim that they must respect conservative people.

Balderdash.

Since when did God say that you have to insist on sending gays to jail or have them caned? Perhaps some verses in the bible do suggest that God objects to homosexuality. (But not everyone interprets them the same way.) But I don't think God ever said, "Go forth and insist on having a law that can send gays to jail even if you do not put it to use."

Since when did God say that homosexuals lead "homosexual lifestyles" and have "homosexual values"? Homosexuality is homosexuality is homosexuality. Gay sex is gay sex is gay sex.

As I said before, there may be quite a number of homophobic people out there. Some people might be really uncomfortable with gays. But how many of these people actually think that just because gays have gay sex, gays need to go to jail or need to be sacked from their jobs?

Being a cat, Molly is not very comfortable with dogs, but does this mean that she wants dogs to be locked up or put to sleep?

Using the slippery slope type of argument that homophobes are so fond of, perhaps I can say that the next thing they are going to do is to insist that we put those who engage in premarital sex behind bars. I know of a prominent blogger who might have to go to jail.

If I know of an unmarried teacher happens to be having sex with his girlfriend, perhaps I should write a complaint to MOE and say that he is in a unique position of authority and a role model of students, so we cannot condone his acts. And you had better act upon my complaint. Because I'm conservative.

But it's not the fault of the so-called conservatives, really.

It's really the fault of those who implanted in them the idea that gay sex can be and has to be criminalized. And who did that? Who are responsible for creating a monstrous system that even they themselves cannot change? (Reminds of that the paradox of God creating a rock so heavy that even He can't carry it Himself.)

*This citizen does not condone any open espousal of homophobic values or lifestyles or any direct or indirect refusal to commit to non-discrimination on the part of political leaders as political leaders are in a unique position of authority and are often seen as role models by the citizens.

Bah. Of course there isn't such a thing as a homophobic lifestyle or a set of homophobic values though there are indeed people who make it their life mission to see that gays do not have it easy.

"My son can sleep with girls before he gets married. But, in the name of God, if he even thinks of loving another man, I will not hesitate to send him to jail, to cane him to his senses! (Well, because . . . because the law has never made it illegal to have premarital sex.)"

Haha.
 



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[info]hansel25
2007-09-11 06:16 pm UTC (link)
this is perfectly well-written.

Have you read the comments to Otto Fong's blog? Everyone seems to be supporting him. Where are the conservatives?!

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10 things conservatives might be doing
[info]mollymeek
2007-09-11 06:47 pm UTC (link)
Thanks. I read the old comments, but haven't gone back.

Instead of commenting on his blog and getting slammed, the "conservative" (pro-jail camp) are probably:

1. writing to MOE
2. writing to RI
3. writing to ST and Today
4. writing sermons and/or testimonies for this Sunday (or whatever day).
5. making a police report saying that the sacred 377A has been violated
6. asking their sons, "Did your teacher anyhow touch you?"
7. suggesting to their sons, "I bring you to do AIDS test and see counsellor ok?"
8. censuring their sons, "Boy ah! Why you write in his blog to support him? Tell me honesty, you gay is it?"

"No? No . . . then why you support him?"

"How I know your online nick? I . . . I just know lah!"
9. praying for his salvation
10. too disgusted for words

Or... maybe they don't really exist at all, except for a few vocal ones who are penning their next illogical invective to be published in the ST. (E.g. a few people from a certain faculty in a certain campus in Bukit Timah.)

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Re: 10 things conservatives might be doing
[info]lorraine10001
2007-09-12 11:40 am UTC (link)
I think hor, you can actually write in to RI also here I think: headmaster@ri.sch.edu.sg (Bob Koh, principal of RI)

I think they do exist lor. It's just that conservatives -- "conservatives" -- esp the "conservative" community here not spending time on the net lor. They're conserving the old way of pen-and-paper or go-to-the-principal's-office-and-demand-justice-for-maligned-son :P

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Re: 10 things conservatives might be doing
[info]mollymeek
2007-09-12 02:30 pm UTC (link)
That's the "conservative" and militant group, but I think many conservatives are just bo-chup...

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(Anonymous)
2007-09-12 02:34 am UTC (link)
Where are the homophobes?? They will be writing direct to the Shit Press Holdings. They wont waste time reading blogs and internet forums. In fact they will write in without even having read or seen Otto Fong's post.

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[info]lctkw
2007-09-11 11:25 pm UTC (link)
(Lev. 20:13) "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death; their blood is upon them."

It's not quite jail, but yes the bible does outright spell it out as wrong and does prescribe a punishment. Maybe the fanatic-types already think they're being merciful and progressive by lobbying for jail instead of death?

That said, our civil laws are not (and should not) be based upon the dictates of any one religion, since not everyone subscribes to the religion and should not be bound by it. As Mr Wang has observed, the bible also lists other (sexual) crimes and their punishments which are not enforced by civil courts in modern society.

I am Christian - while I have not personally made a decision on whether or not homosexuality is 'wrong', I can see where the fanatic-types are coming from - if an all-mighty God disapproves of a certain behaviour, of course we should do our part to stamp it out! However, I also believe in free will (and God's endorsement of it), and that it is simply wrong to forcibly impose this opinion on everyone (believers and non alike).

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[info]pkchukiss
2007-09-12 02:03 am UTC (link)
Great! Louis is indeed a rare Christian who truly believes in the universal right to pursue a life free of interference from outsiders; Nobody can, nor should they attempt to tell me how to live my life, especially if it is my personal sex life.

I dislike homosexuality, I feel that it is unnatural too; however, I feel that we as a society should respect these people, be it a result of their choice or some genetic differences. Do not write laws against them, and do not question their professional capacity to keep their personal lives seperate from their jobs unless they have a history of doing so.

Homosexuals are human beings like us, just as blacks, whites, asians are all human beings. I don't see how the same people can campaign for racial harmony, and at the same time discriminate against gays without seeing the irony.

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[info]mollymeek
2007-09-12 04:27 am UTC (link)
Multi-talented, multi-millionaires in a certain segment of the population seem to be irony-blind.

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(Anonymous)
2007-09-12 02:11 am UTC (link)
Perhaps it would be apt here to recommend Christopher Hitchen's book: How Religion Poisons Everything / God is not Great.

What opinion should Christians have, the poor things. The book they revere as the word of God is telling them to put gays to death. They need not even be forced to have this opinion from the pulpit. They come across it whenever they open up their sacred book.

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[info]disjecta
2007-09-12 03:11 am UTC (link)
Don't forget Sam Harris' Letter to a Christian Nation and The End of Faith.

Both very good and wonderful books

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(Anonymous)
2007-09-12 02:16 am UTC (link)
Why do people still believe in a bronze-age magic books like the Koran and the Bible?

In the name of religion, these religious nuts mutilate genitals of little girls and boys, persecute homosexuals in righteous indignation and kill each other in the name of their Gods even in year of the Lord 2007.

Read scripture more closely and you do not find reasons for religious moderation; you find reasons to live like a proper religious maniac—to fear the fires of hell, to despise nonbelievers, to persecute homosexuals, etc. Of course, one can cherry-pick scripture and find reasons to love your neighbor and turn the other cheek, but the truth is, the pickings are pretty slim, and the more fully one grants credence to these books, the more fully one will be committed to the view that infidels, heretics, and apostates are destined to be ground up in God's loving machinery of justice.

"Religion is the root of all evil" - a Richard Dawkins Documentary everyone should not miss.

Atheist.

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[info]disjecta
2007-09-12 03:05 am UTC (link)
I came across the trailer for a new documentary.

Looks and sounds very powerful .. especially using the sunday school song "Yes Jesus loves me, for the bible tells me so..."



Trailer for the film For The Bible Tells Me So, a provocative documentary that reconciles homosexuality and Biblical scripture. Through the experiences of five families, we discover how insightful people of faith handle the realization of having a gay child. Informed by such respected voices as Bishop Desmond Tutu, Orthodox Rabbi Steve Greenberg and Reverend Jimmy Creech, FOR THE BIBLE TELLS ME SO offers healing and understanding to anyone caught in the crosshairs of scripture and sexual identity.

http://www.forthebibletellsmeso.org


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[info]mollymeek
2007-09-12 04:35 am UTC (link)
That looks very interesting. The title/song underscores the paradoxes. For the Bible tells me so. To some people, the Bible tells them that homosexuality is wrong. To other people, the Bible tells them to love and that Jesus loves them. How do we reconcile the fanatical hatred and the mission to love? Or rather, why have people been focusing on one rather than the other?

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(Anonymous)
2007-09-12 01:30 pm UTC (link)
Or rather, why have people been focusing on one rather than the other?

Because one is a specific injunction against an activity, and the other is a general 'love'.

There also seems to be a weird cycle of gay activism and religious activism reacting to each other. Or so they claim.

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[info]mollymeek
2007-09-12 04:25 am UTC (link)
Yes, as I said the Bible indeed has verses that can be interpreted as saying that homosexuality is wrong. Yet, meaning often depends on context. There are many sexual sins and non-sexual sins in the Bible that can bring death to the sinner, including the sin of not believing in God. In fact, sin is death. But I don't see fanatics lobbying for a law against lying. Nor do I see them asking for laws against not believing in God. By and large, they accept the government's message of harmony when it comes to religion.

With regards to homosexuality, the government has never fully advocated tolerance (at least not as an official stance) and will probably never go to the lengths it has for religious and racial harmony. So people never really had any notion of a "multi-sexual" harmony. In fact, the government has been responsible for the idea that conservative = anti-gay = pro-criminalization.

Which isn't true. I think many Christians put their faith in God, not in secular courts (though these are inevitable). Just as they don't insist that secular courts punish non-Christians, etc, they might not always insist that secular courts punish gays for having sex.

In short, we have to think about why fanatics here (and in many other places) have put so much focus on one thing that gets only a few mentions in the Bible and perhaps are hardly mentioned in other religious texts.

Christians can decide that homosexuality is wrong. Or they can decide that they can't judge based on their limited wisdom and leave the judgment to God. But why would anyone insist on having a law against gay sex when there are so many others guilty of "sexual sins" - teens having pre-marital sex, adulterers (including all men who have looked at women lustfully), etc. With this people roaming freely, aren't they going to brainwash people into having pre-maritial-sex values, adulterous values and whatnot? Something has to have come between the Bible and the individual and guided the individual into focusing on a few narrow aspects of the Bible. God?

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Why?
[info]lctkw
2007-09-12 04:33 am UTC (link)
That magic question - why single out homosexuality? Frankly, I've no clue. Is it simply the easiest (legal) group to discriminate against? Why would churches and religious groups need to do something like this (discriminate against a certain group) in the first place?

The only thing I can think of is for political, or power-consolidation, reasons - but right now my little brain can't quite think how this applies to Singapore. Perhaps I am being too naive?

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Re: Why?
[info]mollymeek
2007-09-12 04:57 am UTC (link)
Or perhaps it is the church minds that are being naive? For people might claim to allow God to guide their reading of the Bible, but no one approaches it as a clean slate. Already, before we begin to read the Bible, we are influenced by the world, the government, the whatever there is. The Bible has been around for two thousand years, but to my knowledge, secular law hasn't always decided that something needs to be done. So maybe we can trace it back historically. Michel Foucault has an interesting take on the issue in The History of Sexuality.

In a more local context, I see that politics have not just influenced the church's attitude towards homosexuality (though it is not the only influence). It has also shaped people's mindsets, which they bring into their religion. For one, I have heard of someone saying something tantamount to "God wants you to vote wisely - for the PAP. . . . Don't go against your leader for it's ungodly . . ."

Given the social engineering that exists in Singapore, perhaps the government could have sold the people lots of things, including tolerance of homosexuality. But it didn't. Instead, it often cites religious conservatism as a justification. And it becomes a vicious cycle where religious fanatics and the political stance feed off each other, and grow bigger and bigger. Now, even if the political leader wishes to change, they are going to be challenged. The possible scenario is roughly like that:

Fanatics: What? You don't respect our views anymore? But you used to!!

Political leaders: We... Did we? Or did we just found it strategic to look as if we did? Well, well... ok. We shall be ambiguous. We do respect your views. But we want to move with the times and not be too harsh on those gays.

Fanatics: Yes, keep the law that criminalizes gay sex.

Political leaders: Yes, keep the law. Try not to use it to charge people. But use it to scare people instead.

Fanatics: Yes, keep the law. We will use it to show kids why it's wrong and unnatural! Without the presence of the law, our words won't have so much force!

Of course, that's kind of simplistic... but bimbos aren't sophisticated people.

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[info]veryannoymous
2007-09-12 04:37 am UTC (link)
i agree with you, i believe in God and i'm a homosexual. christians could preach to me and show me all the verses in the bible that is against my sexuality, but ultimately my sexuality is between God and me, only.

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(Anonymous)
2007-09-12 07:04 am UTC (link)
The biblical God is a fiction. As Richard Dawkins has observed, we are all atheists with respect to Zeus and Thor. Only the atheist has realized that the biblical god is no different.

If God exists, either He can do nothing to stop the most egregious calamities, or He does not care to. God, therefore, is either impotent or evil.

Pious readers will now execute the following pirouette: God cannot be judged by merely human standards of morality. But, of course, human standards of morality are precisely what the faithful use to establish God’s goodness in the first place. And any God who could concern himself with something as trivial as gay marriage or what consenting individuals do in the privacy of their bedroom is not as inscrutable as all that.

If He exists, the God of Abraham is not merely unworthy of the immensity of creation; he is unworthy even of man.

Witness the Christian murderers of abortion doctors or Islamist suicide bombers.

We characterize terrorists as motivated by pure 'evil'. But they are not motivated by evil. However misguided we may think them, they are motivated, like the Christian murderers of abortion doctors, by what they perceive to be righteousness, faithfully pursuing what their religion tells them. They are not psychotic; they are religious idealists who, by their own lights, are rational. They perceive their acts to be good, not because of some warped personal idiosyncrasy, and not because they have been possessed by Satan, but because they have been brought up, from the cradle, to have total and unquestioning FAITH.

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. For good people to do evil things, it takes religion." - Steven Weinberg.

Atheist

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Trackback
[info]kelvintan73
2007-09-12 11:56 am UTC (link)
http://kelvintan73.livejournal.com/85688.html

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anti SPG
(Anonymous)
2007-09-12 12:42 pm UTC (link)
Actually I also very conservative and would like to use your forum to talk about Irene Ng. That woman hor - marry Ang Moh leh. Divorced man also. How can? I very conservative one - now all the women in Singapore think Ang mor bigger than Asian one - not very good role model. She must step down. She must step down. Or else Singapore man got no chance. She very Sarong party girl or not, you think?

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Re: anti SPG
[info]mollymeek
2007-09-12 02:18 pm UTC (link)
You don't get it, do you? When the MIW (or WIW) do something like that, they are moving with the times. When stupid peasants do the same thing, they are being sinful.

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[info]hansel25
2007-09-12 05:48 pm UTC (link)
If you're following the Otto Fong Saga, according to gossip, he has planned to leave the teaching profession before the furor.

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[info]mollymeek
2007-09-13 10:53 am UTC (link)
That's quite likely. Maybe he had not decided to leave, but was at least prepared to leave...

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Controversy
(Anonymous)
2007-09-13 02:08 pm UTC (link)
ATHEIST.

Was never taught by him, but have been on Malaysian Montage with him as the teacher I/C of our group. Yes, I'm from RI. I say he's fun loving, kind, understanding. According to his form classes, he's also a VERY good teacher and makes lessons interesting.

So he's gay. SO WHAT?!

And to ALL those born-again Christians. HERE'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. If YOUR GOD really does not condone it, WHY are there Gay People? you would have thought he wouldn't have allowed them to be born in the first place. (And I'm happy about that becasue RI gained a good teacher.) PLUS, he's also human.

If ANYTHING. These people should be welcomed. LOOK AT HOW MUCH THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH and suffered. Look at the agony and pain they had to go through during the adolescent years.

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Re: Controversy
[info]mollymeek
2007-09-14 04:31 pm UTC (link)
Yes, so what if he's gay? We can't fault him if he has done nothing wrong. And if he has done anything wrong, it's certainly not because he is gay.

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what?
(Anonymous)
2007-09-14 04:11 am UTC (link)
What kind of society do we live in that we need to tolerate stuff and things and such that are different from us. yuck.

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Re: what?
(Anonymous)
2007-09-14 06:00 am UTC (link)
A natural society. Grow up. You're tolerating people that are different from you everyday since everyone is unique.

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Re: what?
[info]mollymeek
2007-09-14 04:17 pm UTC (link)
Or maybe there's a point there... Why "tolerate" since it entails putting up with something you don't like? Why not accept?

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(Anonymous)
2007-09-14 01:33 pm UTC (link)
the government and the conservatives are mostly pro family and pro creation( gays can't produce children naturally if at all). they will, in all their powers, will try to maintain that status quo. the laws simply reflect that stance. without anti gay law, there is a high possibility the homo community will grow here - read: grow too large and free for comfort. it is a tough call for its leaders to repeal or not unless you can find a better solution for such a small and thus, uniquely run country.

it is, after all, a pragmatic approach to an ungay problem.

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[info]mollymeek
2007-09-14 04:28 pm UTC (link)
Why will the government and other people want to maintain the status quo just because they are pro family and pro "creation"? Allowing gay sex won't stop heterosexuals from having children. Many people are not having children now even though gay sex is not legal. In any case, gays can form families too. They can be pro-family, they can be filial children, etc.

Grow too large and free for comfort? For whose comfort? With the anti-gay law, there are still gays. A law doesn't do anything to prevent people from becoming gay, though it certainly does add to the burden of those who recognize themselves as gay and put a number of others in denial.

I can't have a "better" solution because there is no present solution at all.

It can be equally, if not more, pragmatic to repeal 377A. After all, what is so pragmatic about having a law that will not be used? Why not be pragmatic and tell the "conservatives" that it's simply not the business of the government or the law to help them further their anti-gay agenda as the government has to take care of all citizens, not just "conservative' ones? (Not pragmatic for a party's hold on power?)

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Procreation?
(Anonymous)
2007-09-20 01:14 am UTC (link)
If these people are interested in pro-creation, then the first thing they should do is to encourage childless couples to produce more. The size of this group is much bigger and although they are heterosexual ( I judge base on assumption that heterosexual --> marriage, of course there are minor cases where it was used as a cover up )they have no intention of having off-springs.

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(Anonymous)
2007-09-16 05:14 am UTC (link)
the rule of law never changes anyone let alone gays. what it condemns, it also strengthen howbeit in another form under the veil of superficiality. there is no love in the rule of law. the laws are basically convenient tools of manipulation to enrich power mongers. everyone born and live under the rule of law will eventually smell of the stench of hypocrisy which is often indistinctive to them.
the rule of law can never promote nor inspire life. instead, it rules through fear and suppression. in such a world, profits and death are eternal companion.

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(Anonymous)
2007-09-16 06:14 am UTC (link)
??? Hmmm...

I hope this anonymous person comes back and rewrite this post above. It looks like possibly something intelligent, so I'm really curious what's he/she trying to say.

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[info]mollymeek
2007-09-17 08:03 am UTC (link)
"the rule of law never changes anyone let alone gays."
= Having 377A doesn't prevent people from becoming gay or make gays turn straight.

"what it condemns, it also strengthen howbeit in another form under the veil of superficiality."
= The criminalization and "condemnation" (it's a semi-moral stance, not just a legal stance) of gay sex actually puts the spotlight on it more. It also causes gays to react (through activism, etc) whereas if there had been fewer discourses (legal or otherwise), people won't be paying so much attention to the issue.

"there is no love in the rule of law. the laws are basically convenient tools of manipulation to enrich power mongers."
= the MIW is using criminalization as a politically strategic move to garner "support" from the conservatives it has brainwashed into being conservatives.


"everyone born and live under the rule of law will eventually smell of the stench of hypocrisy which is often indistinctive to them.
the rule of law can never promote nor inspire life. instead, it rules through fear and suppression. in such a world, profits and death are eternal companion."
= people will eventually see the dirt under the carpet.

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(Anonymous)
2007-09-18 04:11 am UTC (link)
Ha! Ha! Molly, you're a genius! Good try, even.

After writing my post of 06:14 am above, I next got the idea that the writer had used Babelfish to convert into an English post.

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[info]mollymeek
2007-09-18 05:50 pm UTC (link)
from what language?

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(Anonymous)
2007-09-16 01:39 pm UTC (link)
the temple didn't just want any old location. it wanted a piece of prime indulgent to reflect her princely status. with the mind of a money changer, she slithered into the robe of luxury and worldly symbols by collaborating with the smell of money. less the table be turned on her, she wheedle her ways by twisting the tenets of faith to justify her increasing weight of stored treasuries. ignoring the higher calling of contentment and kinder consumption, she shunted lazarus sores and gambled with her soul in the land of the rich. she whored til the gulf which separated the two widens even further. proudly merchandising the sacred in another name to the tune of another gospel, the distinction between the cherish wretched souls blurred with the perished ones. this seamless blending and collaboration of the two devouring beasts locked horns in a united resolution in plundering exploitation while her chiefs danced in drunkard stupor.

was 30 piece of silver worth striking a good deal?

apparently, lazarus begs to differ.

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[info]zakkie13901
2007-09-16 05:14 pm UTC (link)
"In my previous entry, I highlighted how MOE's statement regarding it's attitude towards homosexual teachers is uncannily similar..."

hey Molly, you know it should be "... I highlighted how MOE's statement regarding ITS attitude..."

it's = it is

its = the possessive adjective and possessive pronoun form of the personal pronoun "it"

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[info]mollymeek
2007-09-17 07:56 am UTC (link)
I know. My English isn't that bad. Though my typing is...

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(Anonymous)
2008-01-08 02:02 am UTC (link)

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